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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:11 pm
by Bryan Cotton
See picture:
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It looks like the #3 exhaust valve has deformed. Seat is not flat - more concave. Also there were burrs at the top of every valve. Had to file the keeper groove edges to remove a burr so I could get them out.

Edit: I accidentally marked 3E as 1E.

Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:36 pm
by Bryan Cotton
Ok, done screwing around. New heads on order.
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We are taking the opportunity to replace the rear main corrosion prevention system. Also plan to split the case and see if we can find the reason why we can't get cruise oil pressure below 60+ psi.

Piston, rings, and cylinders look good.

Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:31 pm
by Hambone
Following!

Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:34 pm
by pappas
Make sure that you get a 3-angle valve grind. After I replaced the heads and did the 3-angle, my turbo ran like it had never before. The valve grind made a huge difference. Much more compression.

Sadly, it was a broken #4 exhaust valve adjuster foot that did in my most recent Waiex. But after the new heads and valve job, that thing was running AWESOME until the adjuster failed and put me in the desert, totaling the plane. If not for that, I would still be flying the Waiex and would be very happy with the performance and cost of ownership. Love the newly completed RV7-A, but it is much more expensive to play with!

Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:09 pm
by Bryan Cotton
pappas wrote:Make sure that you get a 3-angle valve grind.

Lou,
Did you use a local shop or send your heads out?

Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 8:03 pm
by Area 51%
Fact is.... most VW heads already come with the 3 angle valve job. Some offer 4 or 5. In the performance world, the closer you can get to a radius at the seat, the better the air will flow. But, as a previous poster pointed out, the seat to valve margin suffers.
This picture is from a 1977 repair manual.

Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:00 pm
by pappas
I have a friend with a custom Harley shop but he also built VW's for decades. He did it in his machine shop. I think any machine shop can do these. Yes, there are 4 and 5-angle jobs too. The price shouldn't be more than a couple of hundred, I don't think. The difference for me with the new heads and precision 3-angle was so much better than stock.

Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:18 pm
by Bryan Cotton
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:50 pm
by Bryan Cotton
My #3 intake seat fell out.
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